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Coatracking

Stop coatracking. It's original research, also, as no source draws the whole tenuous connection. Wikipedia is not a blog. Phlegm Rooster (talk) 03:12, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Umm, it's not. It provides useful context as to how Pritzker was associated with Obama before she got to run his piggy bank. Yellow Rain (talk) 03:19, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a reliable source that says where and when PP met BO? Phlegm Rooster (talk) 03:23, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Did I say "met"? BTW, Ayers is hardly just "some guy." Her taking the reigns of his organization is quite significant. Yellow Rain (talk) 03:29, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also, there's a huge amount of completely unsourced info in that page (generally not from me) about her supposed philanthropic activities, etc. I find it strange that you are on such a jihad to suppress the CAC reference, which is not at all tenuous. Yellow Rain (talk) 03:36, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I find it strange that you use the word jihad instead of crusade. On Wikipedia, we editors do not decide that somebody taking the reigns of somebody's organization is quite significant, we find a source that says it is significant. You have strung together a series of sources, none of which mention the connection between any of the factoids. Phlegm Rooster (talk) 04:03, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Umm, what are you getting at with this jihad v. crusade angle? Be specific. And there's no need to have a specific source for the connection; it is self-evident. And I did not say that this connections is significant; it merely is. You seem to mean this connection shouldn't be implied, or made visible, at all, lest the weak and culpable readers of WP be led into thinking... what, precisely? Again, please be specific. Yellow Rain (talk) 03:22, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Superior Bank

Pritzker was the subject of a long article today in the Wall Street Journal about her association with a major bank failure in 2001. Surprisingly, her article had nothing about it, so I added a new section.

As I looked over her article's history, I noticed a recurring problem with POV-issues. I'm going out of Internet range for a week -- can someone keep an eye on this? The story of Pritzker's involvement in the bank is complex and nuanced; I'd hate to see that get lost by POV-editing from either direction. Our readers just need the facts so they can draw their own conclusions; I've tried to write it that way.

Google's archives are full of neutral, credible news stories going back to before the bank's failure ~~that could be used to create a Superior Bank (Illinois) article that would tell the story in much greater detail.~~ --A. B. ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:00, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Correction: we already have a Superior Bank of Chicago article; it could use expansion. --A. B. ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:06, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Photo mysteriously gone

Some time last night, the photo of Ms. Pritzker mysteriously vanished from the article. Where did it go? Why? I can't find it in the history of the article. Was there a problem with the copyright permission? Surely there's a good explantion for its sudden disappearance.Critical Chris (talk) 17:26, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It was in the infobox, a head-shot...where did it go?Critical Chris (talk) 00:22, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose if you have US$2.7 billion, or if you'll be the next US Treasury Secretary, you can -try- for a while to make -some things- dissappear right?Critical Chris (talk) 08:26, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Blank page edits by User:Mkrysisnki

Mkrysinski, you appear to have come back twice and edited the article into a blank page. Was this vandalism or a good faith edit?Critical Chris (talk) 09:43, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you look at his contribution history, all his edits have been vandalistic. Check his talk page history and you'll find evidence of previous vandalism warnings that he subsequently erased. I have blocked him indefinitely. --22:59, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Who are you Sir/Madam? Do you wish to identify yourself by signing your comment?Critical Chris (talk) 08:23, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, I'm A. B.; I mistakenly used ~~~~~ instead of ~~~~ when signing my comment above. --A. B. ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:21, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard discussion

FYI, see:

Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard#Penny Pritzker and other Pritzker family articles (permanent link)

--A. B. ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:16, 6 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

unspliced a ref

just fixed an error introduced back in 2008. Frietjes (talk) 19:49, 15 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Philanthropist?

I find it a bit strange to call her a philanthropist in the opening lines, as looking at the subsection about it there is only very thin evidence for anything philanthropic. She supports education - so does every teacher on the planet. Seriously, looking deeper into her philanthropic activities, it's mostly business oriented and nice whitewashing. Sure, she does something, but compare that to real philanthropists out there. Also given that she shows disappointment over the "Safe Harbour" decision in the EU, where 700M people's privacy wasn't respected, I think it's plain wrong to call her a philanthropist. 700M versus help for some Chicagoans? Do the math. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.141.212.74 (talk) 15:40, 7 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Worse even, the Pritzkers are not humane http://peoplesworld.org/hotel-workers-strike-the-grand-hyatt/ and http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/hyatt-turns-heat-lamps-on-strikers/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:46:1A7B:B00A:19E4:5706:34D7:E3FD (talk) 12:42, 24 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Source

Putting this article on the talk page as a possible future source. Knope7 (talk) 04:20, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This contains mostly personal questions but also includes a little family history.

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Penny Pritzker/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Slightlymad (talk · contribs) 05:25, 6 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Knope7: I will be doing this. Slightlymad 05:25, 6 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

General comments

Resolved

Lede

97-1 → en dash not hyphen
US $2.4 billion → $2.4 billion
These need a comma:

As of October 2015
In 2009

done Knope7 (talk) 01:07, 7 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Early life

Penny has two younger brothers, Tony (born 1961) and J.B. (born 1965). → I would shorten born to "b" by inserting this template, {{abbr|b.|born}}
→ "He moved", since Donald is the focus of the preceding sentence anyway.
In 1972 → needs comma
Separate "A.N." with this non-break space template, {{nbsp}}
She earned an AB in Economics → drop the abbreviation, and academic fields are not capitalized in the encyclopedia
JD and an MBA → unabbreviate

done Knope7 (talk) 01:12, 7 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Pritzker family businesses

Need commas:

In 1989
In 2000
In July 2001
In 2009
In 2011

The retirement of Jay Pritizker in 1995 → "In 1995, the retirement of Jay Pritizker...", consistent with your preferred prose style

Mostly done. It looks like another editor made some copy editing changes earlier in the day. I will also note that this article as copy edited before it was nominated. Knope7 (talk) 01:21, 7 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Government and political involvement

CNN reported Pritzker → CNN reported "that" Pritzker?

done Knope7 (talk) 01:29, 7 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Personal life

Pritzker is married to ophthalmologist Bryan Traubert. The couple has two children. → "Pritzker is married to ophthalmologist Bryan Traubert, with whom she has two children."
Separate J.B. with this non-break space template, {{nbsp}}

done Knope7 (talk) 01:57, 7 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Notes

Unsourced

the footnote comes right before the citation in the body of the article. I can add a second citation though. Knope7 (talk) 01:57, 7 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

FNs 13, 20, 38, and 59 are linkrots
Gratuitous capitalization of authors at FN 30
These citations need a minor tweak. I would eliminate those triple-Ws from the |website= parameter and just type in the name of the publication/website from where they were retrieved in the |work= (e.g. www.artnews.com → ARTnews; tribunedigital-chicagotribune → Chicago Tribune)

Add archives to FNs 13, 20, and 59. Archive cannot be located for FN 38, but there are already 2 citations for the sentence it supports and I don't think every link needs to be working for a Good Article. I don't quite know what you are referring to with the website parameter. Is that within the GA criteria? Knope7 (talk) 02:36, 7 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Should be fixed in no time. Slightlymad 05:25, 6 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I did some slight copyedit and I've resolved the remainder of the issues I raised as I don't think I made myself clear about them. I shall now mark this as a pass given that there's no more problems with the article. Good work. Slightlymad 05:46, 7 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Paradise Papers

I have converted the mention of the Paradise Papers to a footnote and included a source which specifically deals with Pritzker and her response. From what I can tell, although the papers indicate a discrepancy with her previous disclosures, the story doesn't seem to have developed beyond that yet. If it becomes a bigger issue, I am happy to re-evaluate how we treat this material. Knope7 (talk) 04:02, 7 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Penny Pritzker's role in the Harvard Corporation.

Penny S. Pritzker ’81, is senior fellow of the Harvard Corporation — the University’s highest governing body. This should be included in this wiki article as her role may be critical in the determination of whether Harvard's President Gay remains at her post following Gay's recent controversial testimony on Capitol Hill. 2600:1700:1FF0:19F0:4DA3:E547:82A1:CE13 (talk) 14:29, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Included, especially now that scrutiny is mentioned in a number of RS specifically about Pritzker's role. Jjazz76 (talk) 04:18, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]